The W124 Mercedes 500E was the world's most perfect sedan | Revelations with Jason Cammisa | Ep. 05
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There are a lot of misconceptions about the Porsche-built W124 Mercedes 500E, and Jason explains why the 500E and E500 was NOT a Porsche sports sedan with a Mercedes badge. First off, there's not a single Porsche part on the car.

Porsche Engineering Services helped with reengineering the W124's engine compartment to fit in the 32-valve, 4-cam M119 V-8 - for both the 400E and the 500E.

But the 500E doesn't use the same V-8 as the 500SL. It needed shorter connecting rods so that it fit in the same physical space as the 4.2-liter 400E - this way only one structural variant needed to be produced.

The 400E was a response to the Lexus LS400. Why do you think it wasn't called a 420E?

Porsche also did the engineering to bolt up wheels, tires, brakes, and suspension components from the wider and heavier R129 500SL and W124 500SEL. That necessitated fender flares so wide that the 500E didn't fit down the regular W124 production line in Sindelfingen.

For both models, Porsche performed the physical modifications to Mercedes-built W124 chassis, and sent them back to Sindelfingen for paint. The 400E remained there, but because of its width, the 500E was sent back to Porsche, which assembled the 500E at a second Zuffenhausen factory.

With Bruno Sacco's revolutionary looks, aerodynamics, obsession with safety, and Mercedes build quality and engineering might, the W124 was certainly among the best (and most expensive) sedans in the world.

Still is. It's close to perfect. But it's not a Porsche Sports Sedan.

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  • Daniel Stefanov
    Daniel Stefanov

    Citroen C5 Exclusiv, ever heard of it? ;)

  • M K
    M K

    The 70s? The W124 500E was in production 1990-1995. About 20 years off

  • Al Ale
    Al Ale

    The first person driving at the end was awesome. Now time to go to marketplace.

  • M K
    M K

    What’s the Mercedes that was in the movie “Double Impact” with Jean Claude Van Damne?

  • Mark Marko
    Mark Marko

    The 80s is when cars used to be real cars, European and Japanese, nothing exciting about today's cars, engineers have their hands and brains cuffed, profit is all what matters, just like what happened to boeing

  • Shawn Elliott
    Shawn Elliott

    It's certainly an incredibly impressive Autobahn Bomber. But for daily commuting in shitty American traffic, my Camry Hybrid with radar-assisted cruise control, automatic lane-centering, no gear-changes, and 50mpg in stop-and-go freeway traffic-jams, wins hands-down.

  • craigb
    craigb

    They really are a stunning car even today.(the 124's).. every now and then you drive past one and they are usually in immaculate condition and you go.... WoW. I think you captured it well when you said "look at all the other cars" from the 80's

  • Abdelrahman Khairy
    Abdelrahman Khairy

    I am appalled by myself not finding this channel sooner... Here's a subscribe..., take it!😄🤲

    • Abdelrahman Khairy
      Abdelrahman Khairy

      I also strongly suspect Doug DeMuro is actually a robot pretending to be human.

  • crazyman8472
    crazyman8472

    So, a late ‘70s Mercedes? That was when “Mercedes” meant something besides “overpriced junk”. 😜

  • Marcus Mcgarkus
    Marcus Mcgarkus

    Personally I thought the most perfect sedan was a Chevrolet Caprice Classic or even a Mercury Grand Marquis. You guys like expensive cars that go to the shop a lot. Engineered like no other car in the world..thank God!

  • Kseno Morf
    Kseno Morf

    finally someone who pronounces Porsche correctly

  • Rhythm Stick
    Rhythm Stick

    BECAUSE IT FITS THE VAPOURWAVE AESTHETIC

  • SG
    SG

    Love my daily drive 1992 300E. But the only thing that I believe one can never control; the absolute MPG, is what's hurting me the most. Best I got was ~26 US MPG and worst I got was 16 in my specific driving conditions. Yet still I plan on keeping it forever. Critical parts are still manageable with reasonable price so far even tho they keep getting less available and more expensive.

  • Nespokesman
    Nespokesman

    Good job, damn...

  • THE BGSTER
    THE BGSTER

    I dont if its the best sedan but its between this and the lotus carlton

  • Addo Blaknovski
    Addo Blaknovski

    GOAT auto journalist 💜

  • Theo Teddy
    Theo Teddy

    wow opel calibra had the same drag coeficient and bragged about it so much I remember it.. never heard mercedes mentioning it that times..

  • Mekai Fortune
    Mekai Fortune

    Nice production

  • Andrew Garcia
    Andrew Garcia

    Probably the coolest merc ever short of the hammer

  • Tj Enki
    Tj Enki

    Please do the Lexus LS 400/430

  • Lorend Bungaran
    Lorend Bungaran

    04:17 is he trying to sit on the bonnet??

  • Christopher Prose
    Christopher Prose

    Great video and so interesting. I had no idea there was so much going on with this car at the time. I do remember when flushed headlights finally arrived in America. They were so cool! Still, it took the US manufacturers years to catch up with that trend and for congress to approve the innovation. You had only two choices with American cars: Round or square, that's it. To me, Europe still has a more diverse and intriguing range of cars to choose from. All we get anymore is SUVs. At least they all come with flush headlights now.

  • Alan Hadzic
    Alan Hadzic

    God is above as Mercedes below

  • Tapejara 150
    Tapejara 150

    He knows.

  • LEE ZEO
    LEE ZEO

    W124 love it

  • Brendan Carlson
    Brendan Carlson

    🔨

  • Birch
    Birch

    Man, now I just gotta see the LS400 video.

  • Henry P
    Henry P

    One of my favorite episodes, and prob one of my favorite cars ever! Great Content !

  • Obamaistoast2012
    Obamaistoast2012

    The most perfect car is my 93 mitsubishi expo LRV,

  • socallawrence
    socallawrence

    This dude is a mix of Adam Sandler, Ben Affleck and and Edward Burns LOL

  • battlecat
    battlecat

    Lexus will always be better than Benz.

  • Mudiaga Idjerhaka
    Mudiaga Idjerhaka

    Till today....2021.... are you sure..though I like Mercedes benz

  • A one
    A one

    W124 engineering masterpiece

  • Nick Hagen
    Nick Hagen

    Saw the intro. I insta subbed !:) i know am the right place !

  • xn0
    xn0

    The masturbating windshield wiper is awesome.

  • Jose Gutierrez
    Jose Gutierrez

    A thing of beauty, this car is rolling art where form follows function

  • Nick Blackwell
    Nick Blackwell

    Brilliant video. Very interesting

  • Don K
    Don K

    I just discovered this video. I have a 1989 W124 200, which has done 446 000 km - every thing still original and she goes like a bomb. When I give my grandchild's friends a lift from school, they always say, "wow, it rides so smoothly" even though their parents have the latest models of all types of vehicles. I love my Merc as it goes untouched from service to service. Other cars dread colliding with it as it is like a tank in comparison with many of the flimsy cars of today. Although it has been a family car for years, the interior is immaculate and so too the exterior (except for a bit of rust at rear window (coastal car)). Still quite a few in my Town looking super good. You can park them next to the latest models and it will stand proud. Thanks for the excellent presentation.

  • manolis wec
    manolis wec

    nice work

  • MökkiMan
    MökkiMan

    Still, Mercedes W124 is better than LS400

  • Stefan M
    Stefan M

    I remember when I was kid I saw this car and i fall in love with Mercedes. This Mercedes together with w140, w123 was symbol of success.

  • Kalle Simonen
    Kalle Simonen

    volvo 940!

  • M22ate
    M22ate

    I need one

  • Gregory Garcia
    Gregory Garcia

    Damn doode. You’re such a Fender Licker. I love your style.

  • Rakyh
    Rakyh

    My brother had one of the few 500E in Sweden and that thing was an absolute BLAST to drive!

  • Peter Kröger
    Peter Kröger

    I always find it hillarious when I hear what Americans call "a compact". This was the second biggest Mercedes for crying out loud. Here in Europe we call a VW Golf a compact an thats two sizes smaller. (At least back then.)

  • 4k re-ality
    4k re-ality

    Burt Kreisher to tell you how great the 500E was

  • Conor James
    Conor James

    anyone else do a google search. see the price ...laugh...and then wanted to buy 1?

  • Bad-Short-Videos
    Bad-Short-Videos

    The "Porsche" license plate holder on the 124 is very fitting

  • Dave Mills
    Dave Mills

    Now this was fun to watch. Excellent 👌

  • Louigie
    Louigie

    I want that car... Super Advanced yet built by 1970??? Dude..

  • Channel D
    Channel D

    I had a friend who had one, it's was awesome

  • channel surfer
    channel surfer

    why would anybody thumb this show down? this is how you do a car show...it's the best one.

  • Anubhav Singh
    Anubhav Singh

    Some of the finest video I have seen in long time

  • channel surfer
    channel surfer

    ...is the 2010 Jaguar XF hands down.

  • veezo85
    veezo85

    My W124 saved me from a head on collision with a Toyota pickup. I skidded off the road due to an oil spill and my car didn't have airbags. I walked away from the crash sadly my car didn't..

  • Premium Motors Mercedes Service
    Premium Motors Mercedes Service

    Nice car and reliable

  • R. Flash
    R. Flash

    The things you can do when you actually put some effort in. We went to the moon 40 years ago and now all these wannabe engineers with fancy computers can't even build a 747 with it blowing up! Also how on earth do you build a car that can't even fit down ur own assembly line like nobody thought to measure!🤦‍♂️

  • Mean Mister Mustard
    Mean Mister Mustard

    one of my favorite cars of all time... and I'm dreaming of having one. LOL! for 250 to 350k philippine pesos, i can own one... that's the E230 - E320 btw

  • Tech Mania
    Tech Mania

    worlds most perfect sedan is bmw e39 and please dont discussions!

  • Øyvind Samuelsen
    Øyvind Samuelsen

    Liked in 1 sec just because of JC. Yeah the one in the video, not the other guy.

  • Exotic Cars
    Exotic Cars

    Nah it's heap of junk. Best sedan is the Tesla Model S and Model 3

  • Diev-Man NGWENYA
    Diev-Man NGWENYA

    I still saving to restore my Gramp's

  • NihlistNif
    NihlistNif

    PORSHA

  • Jochen Bas
    Jochen Bas

    The first panamera

  • GOLDMANN TMT
    GOLDMANN TMT

    I will definitely buy this W124 Mercedes-Benz 500E before I die .

  • LR_S3
    LR_S3

    The W124 is such a wonderful car, even the normal ones.

  • Naor L
    Naor L

    Cars today are so boring. fast and economic but lack of charm and soul

  • Naija guy Gamer
    Naija guy Gamer

    In the past,this car was only own by a rich business man,presidents,royal family or a high political worker...it was the most respected car then even than the rolls royce and Volkswagen Mercedes is and always will be king

  • J. RAMIREZ
    J. RAMIREZ

    Lexus ls400 is better

  • Tomas T
    Tomas T

    times when experienced engineers and designer had the word and not some 20y old pencil pusher on the economic department. :D:D:D...so lets see how hooptie likes it :D

  • jonathan hutsell
    jonathan hutsell

    90s Porsche was amazing for it's joint projects during that time

  • Marcus
    Marcus

    well i ll take 200 diesel over the v8 a 1000 times.

  • Carl Weidman
    Carl Weidman

    Best video I've watched in a long time

  • Rodney c
    Rodney c

    Ryan Reynolds ish

  • Anonymous Suomynona
    Anonymous Suomynona

    "It was engineered by Germans who were infatuated with fuel economy." Miles per gallon: *FOURTEEN*

    • MökkiMan
      MökkiMan

      This is the V8 model. Get a 250TD or a 280E and we'll see from that

    • Exotic Cars
      Exotic Cars

      More like cheating emissions

  • Harry B
    Harry B

    Too bad it’s ugly

  • Tips 4 truckers
    Tips 4 truckers

    I was not expecting. 0.26

  • Clarence Thomas
    Clarence Thomas

    Ive been working on Benz for 20 years and never knew the 119 V8 won a le mans, some awesome info i these videos

  • eric bunce
    eric bunce

    Great video. I love my w163 ML500

  • ice cold
    ice cold

    I just discovered your page, and I must say this is some of the best automotive journalism I’ve ever seen. The quality is record breaking. The only thing that comes remotely close is donut.

  • Hoonatic Bloggs
    Hoonatic Bloggs

    You lost me at ‘it’s recirculating ball steering is more talkative than and modern, blah blah.’ Nonsense. Just nonsense.

  • jc3Dcx
    jc3Dcx

    "It's close to perfect. But it's not a Porsche Sports Sedan" .... of course not, It's perfect, It's a Mercedes Benz.

  • PioneerPauly
    PioneerPauly

    I absolutely love your personality during all your interviews well done my friend! Subscribed 👊🏼

  • 3UZFE
    3UZFE

    and ruined with a 4 speed auto.

  • Nino Keegan
    Nino Keegan

    Such a sexy car. You knew someone ment business if they had one of these. One of my favorite German cars.

  • rune mikalsen
    rune mikalsen

    You did this car right!

  • Ramana R
    Ramana R

    reminds me of the 'ethos' of Benz - to embody the vehicles that conquer Land, Air and Water, hence the tri-star on the emblem

  • Carlito Brigante
    Carlito Brigante

    Wtf....im in 2021 and never seen a windhsield wiper like that. Holy moly🤯🤯🤯

  • autobahnproven
    autobahnproven

    Is the AWD sleeper wagon V70R enough of a classic for a video?

  • Victor Cruiser
    Victor Cruiser

    Verry professional!👍

  • Long2757
    Long2757

    Never driven the 500E but I did get to drive an AMG Hammer. What a machine. Of course that was back in the late 90's when I drove it, I'm sure even the supercharged E55 AMG outperforms it now, but I love the W124 body. Want to get a black 300E and put a turbo LS in it.

  • Paul Mendonca
    Paul Mendonca

    Nice one. Always loved that sedan. Still want one today.

  • Corrupted Omega
    Corrupted Omega

    Lexus Ls400 has entered the chat.

  • David Rothstein
    David Rothstein

    This guy is better than all of Top Gear America. Is there a UK version still?

  • Corey M
    Corey M

    This is such a fantastic car but the E39 M5 would like to have a chat with you!

  • LENOVOPRODUCER
    LENOVOPRODUCER

    Bruno Sacco is a God in car design. LNP

  • Car-Lo
    Car-Lo

    Imagine you are a car seller from an insurance company trying to sell this car.... well, I'm sold!

  • AkimBubble D. Eagle
    AkimBubble D. Eagle

    Its like a Louis Vuitton Road bike that is released during pandemic crisis,just wow

  • Hassan Khan
    Hassan Khan

    Those were they when mercedes were as relible as toyota/lexus, and engineering on its finest, and now its all garabge speacily the electric ones as well, cars now days are just a joke to me with computers screens and cheap qulity materials that only feel that they are expensive when they aren't, nor the engines are much relible as well, for me old cars will never lose respect and never will ever over come any new car ever, if some one said would you take new 2020 mercedes E class or S I would say no I would go with real old merc with real amg.

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